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May 19th, 2009, 6:07 am

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Reply true mercha, May 19th, 2009, 6:08 am

its called youtubefagbot

yes his hands are spikes

work in progress

Reply genx0, May 19th, 2009, 6:51 am

Needs better anatomy

and more Desu.

Reply Dark Dragon X80, May 19th, 2009, 6:51 am

Is it based off something or a doodle?

Reply true mercha, May 19th, 2009, 7:15 am

my own desing thanks

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 7:18 am

Practice figure drawing.

On paper.

Drawing is the basis for EVERYTHING. Realistic human figure drawing is the basis for ALL characters.

The weight of the character is off. Keep the head centered on the foot bearing the weight.

You've got all the time in the world and unlimited ability to edit. Take your time and get it right.

EDIT: Also, figure out how to make good curves in MS paint. It's jaggy.

Reply true mercha, May 19th, 2009, 7:39 am

i lauched becouse i found that sprite of your ugly

anyway, thanks for advice

Reply cqclegoman, May 19th, 2009, 7:44 am

inorite Mercha?

Try meta style, you'd be good at it.

no not you Mercha

Reply true mercha, May 19th, 2009, 7:46 am

;-;

Reply cqclegoman, May 19th, 2009, 7:54 am

That's right

now get out

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 7:54 am

Gang up on the bad guy, great job. Say his style sucks, and his character is worse.

I've been complimented on the character concept and my style in other places (Mercha did it by PM even), so unless you can point out something more than it "sucking" I'm going to disregard the motion.

I made my post before you edited yours, so you can't call me on the whole, "I'm not really a god of spriting", thing.

I'd post concept art and so on, but you'd just take that as an invitation to say those suck without really pointing out anything actually bad about it.

*sigh* In before flame war.

EDIT: Didn't check which image I was posting, here's the animated fire spiral.

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/416986/sprites/firespiralfixed.gif

Reply true mercha, May 19th, 2009, 8:02 am

nope, i said the wryy was epic the sprite i think is ugly


your art is great, i assure that

Reply Reds, May 19th, 2009, 8:14 am

@Evilagram:

The Video:

Shading: Needs fixed shading, it looks like you just put it in every place it seems good. The right sleeve looks like it's pillowshaded. Your light source only has one line, or from what I can see. The left arm doesn't seem anything special, and the pecs are just ugly. It doesn't even seem like real pecs. This is all I'm gathering from the video, which isn't actually full quality so I can't tell the difference, but from what I'm guessing it's probably like that on the sheet.

Pallete: The pallete is terrible, but you said you fixed it up. So I don't even know.

Psyhically: He's sitting down and stretching one leg out without falling over in one pose. What the ffffffff?
This reason is stupid which I put down, however it does help to add physhics into sprites if you plan on making them more realistic.

The Sprite: His face is messed up, I don't know if that was on purpose but god that's creepy. The pecs need more definition, they disconnect from eachother. His jacket doesn't make sense. It's like he taped on the arms, and then taped the back to his backside. Where's the vest? I also see no creases whatsoever.

The Oneoff:

Shading: The pecs look terrible, but atleast your lightsource is more visible.

Pallete: Pretty good and not as bad as the one in the video, which looked like Jello. This one did look alot better.

The Sprite: The jacket is fixed in this, I do like the creases, however and I think this is better then the one in the video.

Oneoff is alot better. <3

Reply true mercha, May 19th, 2009, 8:16 am

i love you reds <3


note, evilgram gave me good advice in this one

thank you

Reply cqclegoman, May 19th, 2009, 8:19 am

i love you cman <3

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 8:24 am

You're missing anatomy, and your palettes could use some color theory. Keep the palette small, don't throw in colors for every little thing. Start with a warm highlight and go to a cool shadow, or vice versa.

The shading borders on pillow in many places, get more directional.

Cute stuff. I'm not going to say you're better or worse, because you'd probably going to end up insisting the former.

Try some animation, sprites deserve it.

EDIT: By the way, I saw all three. The spurn sheet was . . . interesting.

Reply cqclegoman, May 19th, 2009, 8:32 am

I don't have anything to animate with.

Now, stop hiding behind your wall of lies. Or, wall of text as us normal people call it.

Now, I think the sprite is fine. No real need to edit it.

In fact, here's a little quote of mine.

"If you don't like it, fix it yourself"

We all start at recoloring, we move to edits, we finally get to customs. Moving to customs to early puts us at your skill level where the sprite is horrible and needs utter repair.

We all move along at our own pace, your just trying to poison the minds of newbie spriters.

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 8:33 am

Reds:

The original palette was stuck in as a working palette, I eventaully got around to fixing it up.

Eh, the sleeves are a bit odd in places because I had trouble figuring out the light source. I went back later on and fixed that so it wouldn't look so damn pillow shaded. I'd show the most recent version of the sheet, but I'm really unhappy with a few poses that got rushed.

The pose is a sliding pose, it appears off balance because it is anticipating whiplash. I know my weight.

I'm not happy with the pecs either. I'm practicing anatomy. I'll do those better next time. As is it seems sort of like a bulletproof vest, or that suit from batman.

The face was done that way on purpose. If it creeped you out, then I did a good job. Here is the original concept sketch.

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/416986/Pictures/HERPAMADERP.jpg

And here is a followup which I do not like nearly as much as the original.

https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/416986/Pictures/scanbpe9.jpg

Reply true mercha, May 19th, 2009, 8:42 am

your art is great, i told you

all we want that you dont putcher(putcher? i dunno...) edits

we have fun with edits

Reply cqclegoman, May 19th, 2009, 8:43 am

This doesn't mean you have the right to tell us not to edit as we please.

/end convo

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 8:54 am

CG, if I fix it, then what do you learn?

Not everyone starts at recolors. Not everyone starts at edits. If this were true, then where did the sprites come from in the first place?

http://www.pixeljoint.com/

People learn this stuff, no editing required.

EDIT: I animate in MS paint. No animation tools my ass. Get a free animated gif maker.

Reply true mercha, May 19th, 2009, 9:10 am

lets not start again <_<

are we cool?

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 9:27 am

CG is the one throwing fuel to the fire.

You gotta insist I suck, don't you?

Reply Reds, May 19th, 2009, 9:28 am

I'm throwing Dr. Pepper into the fire.

NO WAIT MY DR. PEPPER.

I also agree that Evilagram didn't start the flame going on this sprite, he critted and Cman said he sucked.

Reply cqclegoman, May 19th, 2009, 11:15 am

Well FFFFFFFFFFFFFF

;-;

Reply s.l at school (Guest), May 19th, 2009, 12:49 pm

OH MY GOD DON'T YOU PEOPLE HAVE FUCKING LIEVS!?!

I MEAN I LEFT THIS FLAME WAR AT AROUND 11:02 LAST NIGHT AND IT'S NOT 1:49 AND IT'S STILL GOING ON.

JESUS CHRIST YOU GUYS ALL NEED TO GET LAID.

Reply true mercha, May 19th, 2009, 12:52 pm

you brobally never have got laid S.L

also, i was just giving my opinion :/

Reply Yamataro, May 19th, 2009, 1:26 pm

Hey Evil, If you have a link to one of those animators please share. I'd like to get one but can't seem to find one.

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 1:48 pm

Right here:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gif+animator

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 3:17 pm

My own trade? I'm an ANIMATOR. And I know how to animate fine, thank you very much.

You deserve a punch to the face.

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/416986/temp/punch.swf

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 3:38 pm

*sigh* Animation isn't about the number of frames you make. Also, I animate at 24 FPS, for classical reasons. The frame count is 19 by the way, not 8.

Animation is about the smoothness of the motion. It's about understanding how things move. It's about weight. It's about figure drawing. It's about anticipation, easing, and motion arcs. It's about a lot of stuff that you can't as well as I just did.

*sigh* Can we get off the topic of me knowing things and you not? I didn't come here to brag and show off art.

Reply Neociz, May 19th, 2009, 3:44 pm

And the war continues~ :3

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 3:52 pm

Wow, I facepalm'd massively at the part about the arm not moving smoothly during the punch itself.

The sound effect I'm still working on (don't have anything good on hand to make a nice punch with, so I clapped my hands together). Check back on that link in half an hour and I'll probably have something better up.

The body structure critique was generic. Can you be specific?

Reply Dark Dragon X80, May 19th, 2009, 4:11 pm

JL, you can't bitch about that lmgtfy thing, that was actually pretty funny.
And Yama, just get Microsoft Gif Animator, I use it and it comes out fine.

Reply ragethefox, May 19th, 2009, 4:16 pm

Oh people.Plz stop this f***ing thing.
Evilagram,yes,you draw good,but just because you draw really well doesn't need to force people to stop editing.Plz.
Stop this flame war.Let them be.Don't even talk about shading.Only if its pillowed or sumthing.

Others,please let him comment.Lets get peace,WHAT THE F***
YOU PEOPLE ARE GETTING A F***ING MEANINGLESS WAR!

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 4:40 pm

Kay, replaced the punching sound. My little brother found a leather footrest.

Eh, the thing isn't my best figure. It was drawn in parts, as is especially obvious at the beginning with the big discrepancy between the legs and body, which lead to more of the same problems later on. Groin is lacking, yeah, but the muscles have curves on them, I'm sure of that.

Shadow Lugia, you can't do this, so don't give me crap about "anyone" being able to do it.

JL, the thing lacks weight. It seems to sort of be stumbling, as if it were about the trip. There's no clear line of action.

The perspective on the shell is forced. The rest of the shape indicates that it should be going back at an angle, but it's tilted in a weird angle at the viewer.

The wings have no rhyme or reason to them, and not in the good way.

The right hand is great, even if the grip seems a bit loose. I'm guessing that was ref'd. The thumb needs to be thicker.

The left hand is disorderly and misshapen. I'm also pretty sure you put the thumb on the wrong side.

The length of the legs isn't consistent, and the foreshortening is pretty odd.

The face seems skewed, with the nose at an odd angle, as if the face itself were twisted. The shell hat doesn't seem to line up with the perspective either.

Another subtle thing is that the neck seems to be coming out of the right shoulder instead of evenly positioned in the center.

If you have photoshop, use the levels and curves adjustments to help the thing show up better in the scan.

Reply The Neroe, May 19th, 2009, 4:49 pm

Wow Jesus Lizard, YOU SURE ARE MATURE XDXDXDXDXDXDXDD
DELETING COMMENTS TRYING TO STOP THE WAR SURE IS FUNNIE AND SUPAR MATURE XDDDDDD

YOU MUST BE LIEK SO AWSUM IN RL XD

Reply Neociz, May 19th, 2009, 4:50 pm

"Wow Jesus Lizard, YOU SURE ARE MATURE XDXDXDXDXDXDXDD
DELETING COMMENTS TRYING TO STOP THE WAR SURE IS FUNNIE AND SUPAR MATURE XDDDDDD

YOU MUST BE LIEK SO AWSUM IN RL XD"

ect.

Reply Shifting Sands, May 19th, 2009, 4:52 pm

please.
Evilgram, JL.
Just stop.

Reply The Neroe, May 19th, 2009, 4:53 pm

Why?
Because I said that he wasnt wrong?


His critic is correct.

For this sprite.

Reply The Neroe, May 19th, 2009, 4:57 pm

Oh god, you crack me up, you really do.

Stop being a wise ass, if you want friends here on SJ you'll need to maybe, I unno...not be an ass?


And btw: Your character's sprite: It sucks, utterly.


i lauched becouse i found that sprite of your ugly

anyway, thanks for advice


That's right

now get out


This doesn't mean you have the right to tell us not to edit as we please.

/end convo


Evil gram, Ive had it.
Get off our comic, and stop ensulting the authors.


Now that I see your custom sprites above, I laugh at the fact that you critisized our edits.
Your sprites, though, yes, 100% custom, are blocky, badly colored, and just plain ugly.


NO ONE IS UNIQUE, WE ALL LIVE IN A WORLD OF COPY CATS, SLANDER, AND WHORES.
SO STFU everyone.

Oh people.Plz stop this f***ing thing.
Evilagram,yes,you draw good,but just because you draw really well doesn't need to force people to stop editing.Plz.
Stop this flame war.Let them be.Don't even talk about shading.Only if its pillowed or sumthing.

--------------------------------------


So civil <3

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 4:58 pm

Wow, how did I KNOW that you would pull the "Non-euclidean geometry" card on me?

Yeah, it would do the character justice to have strange geometries, but just skip on that until you have a really thorough knowledge of realistic anatomy.

Picasso may not have drawn proportionally, but he earned that right. Check out his anatomical studies before his abstract work.

Also, gotta love Lovecraft. My character took a Lovecraftian turn after I quit Sheezyart and redesigned it.

Also, PROTIP to everyone, if you want to make the posting stop, stop posting. Ever seen a troll thread on /v/? Most of the posts are people calling it a troll thread.

If you don't have content, don't bother.

Reply Neociz, May 19th, 2009, 4:59 pm

Oh, my.

Reply The Neroe, May 19th, 2009, 4:59 pm

...who? :c

Reply Shifting Sands, May 19th, 2009, 5:02 pm

Fucking Kill me now please.

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 5:03 pm

I do life drawing on Wednesdays. I do a lot of independent anatomical studies too.

Great site for figure drawing is http://www.posemaniacs.com

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 5:05 pm

They have both female and male models there. Of course it's all idealized stuff, thin, fit, etc. You can find a lot of good refs off google images, and I know there are more than a few artistic reference sites out there.

Reply degreenfreak, May 19th, 2009, 5:20 pm

wtf. AGAIN?

screw it, I'm not bothering with this...

Reply Reds, May 19th, 2009, 5:23 pm

oh hey

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 5:27 pm

You just thought I was a massive douchebag because I have a directly opposing position to yours on the topic of edits, leading you to ignore the worth of all of my art, even if it were professional quality.

Common psychological phenomena. Don't lose your head.

Reply The Neroe, May 19th, 2009, 5:39 pm

JL
if you haven't noticed
that's the definition of Smackjeeves.

Reply Shifting Sands, May 19th, 2009, 5:42 pm

http://www.smackjeeves.com/images/pb/4/4PrnptoFLuGpcQpz2JkTQT.gif

If you guys seriously don't shut the fuck up now, I am going to go on a hunger strike.

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 5:42 pm

I didn't say it sucked, I didn't say any of the members sucked, I didn't do anything insulting or inflammatory, apart from asking people to make their own shit.

And don't mention me saying, "newfags", you guys were angry at me before that.

Reply NoHeroesLeftInMan, May 19th, 2009, 5:48 pm

A newfag complaining about newfags is massively fucked.

Sands / SL: stop being a faggot.

That is all.

Reply genx0, May 19th, 2009, 6:14 pm

Not meaning to be a dick and all but evil is right in a sense

Figure Drawing IS the root of all spriting because all spriting really is is a small scale anatomy drawing we work off of, just like a manikin. Now I'm not saying I agree with his style of critique, But I've seen this before with Tom (ya'll remember him.) He does make good points but Evil you really need to work on making your crit less harsh. As for "Edits are bad" No there not. I WENT BACK TO EDITING to practice my anatomy for when I tried to custom again and guess what, it got better. Now I'm not feeding to the flame I'm voicing my point of view over all of this. I've known evil sense sheezyart when he flamed some of my sprites, after that I began to see him elsewhere (Forums, Novally, Chatango etc.)Although his method is unorthodox, he does make solid points and also guys, We are all hypocrites when it comes to crit, but it makes us realize what we do wrong too. Now here's the synopsis.

-No More "Evilagram Sucks comments." we don't need more of this war.

-Evil please work on your way of crit, if you keep trying to tell people to correct there mistakes like that, well we just won't listen

-Let's all just drop it now, we can live in harmony as long as there is a mutual respect between both parties.

~Alpha_The_Rebel/GenX0/Andrew

Reply genx0, May 19th, 2009, 6:19 pm

Hey Better late than never.

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 6:25 pm

Go to ConceptArt, I'm a lightweight on criticism.

Also, I don't flame, as is evidenced by the total lack of inflammatory remarks in all of my messages here.

I was banned on Sheezyart for breaking their "No dispute rule", then outed on a misunderstanding that I suspect was a setup.

Reply genx0, May 19th, 2009, 6:28 pm

Lol No I mean from your "Other" account.

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 6:31 pm

Heh, I was harsh on that account. Fitting a persona, you might say.

I seriously convinced Shade Falcon that I was either two people or that I had personality fragmentation.

Reply genx0, May 19th, 2009, 6:34 pm

So your the man with two brains? Who woulda' thought.

Reply Zmanwarrior, May 19th, 2009, 7:14 pm

What the hell is that thing scrolling along the bottom of the page?

Reply Evilagram, May 19th, 2009, 7:21 pm

I thought nobody supported that HTML tag anymore.

Eh.

Reply Afroman17, May 19th, 2009, 7:38 pm

stirring up trouble as usual....

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